I actually like the quirky envelopes. Then again I’m not looking for “regular” sounds or anything. Easy automation is a plus though.

I never use program changes… As far as a patch system goes, I just use fxp/fxb most the time.

Not very helpful eh?

And more LFOs would be nice. I quickly run out of them since i want to modulate everything everytime.

Otherwise i’m really pleased with Atlantis once i found a way to make FXB banks for it. If you use TobyBears MiniHost the preset handling isn’t such a big deal.

current atlatis envelopes -realy great
AHDSR - very simple to use )

I want to modulate sustain with velocity from within Atlantis, damnit. You can’t do that now.

With A(H)DSR you can modulate any of the envelope stages with a modulator. Which is rad- more expressive and fun to play. I like playing Atlantis with a midi controller.

You can still dial up a gate and modulate the volume of an osc with one of the complex envelope modulators if you want the crazy swells like you can program now (but it will use some envelope modulators).

As for patch management: I strongly agree with you guys. I designed the current patch management after my old beloved ax-73, mainly because I didn’t think anything more would be needed. I was wrong. It needs a more accessible interface.

I want to rework or remove program changes so patch switching is simple and easy for everyone. I’ve had an idea for a while about how to handle the guts of program changes in a better way, but it’s a departure from how it works now and will probably wreck all of your current banks. It might be better to abandon them entirely.

I think having 1000 chipsounds is goofy. I have 20, and even that’s ridiculous. However, when I decide on a clean method for patch browsing, I will keep it modular and apply it here too. Most likely it will be something simple like nested menus mirroring the directory structure, as has been suggested.

Thanks,
Jeremy

what about making 2-3 key point in envelope, with automatisation. you set time between key points (in ms), and changing will scale envelope between key points.

I think you understand ))) i will draw it if you want.

So, and if you make so complex envelope with automatisation - We need presets for envelopes to make work easier.

I always do what I can to prevent data loss when the file format changes. Do not worry about your old patches, I will respect them.

Gazzuar-

I like that idea. I was thinking about something similiar, basically setting a modulator range for 2 or 3 selectable points. I would like to see a sketch of your idea, as the trick is to make it simple for the user to understand. Your concept may be better.

Mick Rippon’s biggest complaint is the envelope windows are already too crowded to be useful- and I generally respect his comments.

Mick’s suggestion is an envelope maximize button that zooms it up for better editing. Which is a good idea, but of course lots of work for me.

I’ll keep thinking about it..

Jeremy

somthng like that )) choose start/end points and size …